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	<title>Comments on: Can one use natural selection or genetic drift to explain human and Neandertal cranial differences?</title>
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		<link>http://anthropology.net/2007/07/24/can-one-use-natural-selection-or-genetic-drift-to-explain-human-and-neandertal-cranial-differences/#comment-18769</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 10:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;just a note on a comment in this article… modern culture is not selecting for body type. even though slim, trim and tall is in vogue – that does not mean these people are producing more offspring. there are plenty of non-hollywood types having children. if anything, they are having more.&quot; 
totally agree 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;just a note on a comment in this article… modern culture is not selecting for body type. even though slim, trim and tall is in vogue – that does not mean these people are producing more offspring. there are plenty of non-hollywood types having children. if anything, they are having more.&#8221;<br />
totally agree<br />
good stuff</p>
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		<title>By: Brent Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brent Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just a note on a comment in this article... modern culture is not selecting for body type.  even though slim, trim and tall is in vogue - that does not mean these people are producing more offspring.  there are plenty of non-hollywood types having children.  if anything, they are having more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just a note on a comment in this article&#8230; modern culture is not selecting for body type.  even though slim, trim and tall is in vogue &#8211; that does not mean these people are producing more offspring.  there are plenty of non-hollywood types having children.  if anything, they are having more.</p>
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		<title>By: Neandertal Broad Noses Due To Lower Face Prognathism &#171; Anthropology.net</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neandertal Broad Noses Due To Lower Face Prognathism &#171; Anthropology.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] camps currently hashing out whether the Neandertal facial morphology is due to random genetic drift or a mix of archaic traits and climate influenced adaptations. One of the more hotly debated facial [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] camps currently hashing out whether the Neandertal facial morphology is due to random genetic drift or a mix of archaic traits and climate influenced adaptations. One of the more hotly debated facial [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sabrina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 17:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a ques which may sound stupid but ill ask it anyway. How do skulls have teeth? Dont most people who die from old age lose most of there teeth. Dont your gums hold your teeth? After u die dont your gums disintegrate or something which would cause the teeth to fall out? So how do skulls have teeth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a ques which may sound stupid but ill ask it anyway. How do skulls have teeth? Dont most people who die from old age lose most of there teeth. Dont your gums hold your teeth? After u die dont your gums disintegrate or something which would cause the teeth to fall out? So how do skulls have teeth?</p>
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		<title>By: Weaver, Roseman and Stringer back at it with Neandertals, Natural Selection and a time of divergence &#171; Anthropology.net</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Weaver, Roseman and Stringer back at it with Neandertals, Natural Selection and a time of divergence &#171; Anthropology.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 00:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in regards to Neandertal and modern human speciation. You may remember they published a paper in August of 2007, in which they basically concluded that natural selection really didn&#8217;t have anything to do [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in regards to Neandertal and modern human speciation. You may remember they published a paper in August of 2007, in which they basically concluded that natural selection really didn&#8217;t have anything to do [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TerryT</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 04:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ken says, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;we are a different species, no kin to Neanderthal. The DNA testing available so far agrees with the findings.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As far as I&#039;m aware the only  really definitive DNA testing is the mtDNA and Y-chromosome.  We know that lines of these are replaced reasonably often in modern human populations let alone ancient ones.  Besides which even the mtDNA shows moderns and Neanderthals separated a mere half million years ago.  Many species that separated five times as long ago as that are freely able to form hybrids.  The idea of calling the two populations separate species is still a bit premature.  They may not have formed hybrids but the reason for that is unlikely to have been genetic incompatibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken says, </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;we are a different species, no kin to Neanderthal. The DNA testing available so far agrees with the findings.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m aware the only  really definitive DNA testing is the mtDNA and Y-chromosome.  We know that lines of these are replaced reasonably often in modern human populations let alone ancient ones.  Besides which even the mtDNA shows moderns and Neanderthals separated a mere half million years ago.  Many species that separated five times as long ago as that are freely able to form hybrids.  The idea of calling the two populations separate species is still a bit premature.  They may not have formed hybrids but the reason for that is unlikely to have been genetic incompatibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hogan</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2007/07/24/can-one-use-natural-selection-or-genetic-drift-to-explain-human-and-neandertal-cranial-differences/#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Hogan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The facts are in now that Neanderthal and modern humans are seperate species, therefore &quot;drift&quot; is a meaningless word as we are a different species, no kin to Neanderthal. The DNA testing available so far agrees with the findings. The question now is moot.  

The study released by Cambridge University on May 8th of this year (finally!) shows that all humans alive on this planet came from about 10,000 adult modern humans, some whom migrated out of Africa after the Mt. Toba ice age was ending around 55-50,000 years ago.

Neanderthal may have been kin with Hablus or Erectus, but not modern humans.  The Bradshawfoundation.com can provide much more facts and figures than I am able to include on this post.  

Who we are is back to square one. 

Ken]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The facts are in now that Neanderthal and modern humans are seperate species, therefore &#8220;drift&#8221; is a meaningless word as we are a different species, no kin to Neanderthal. The DNA testing available so far agrees with the findings. The question now is moot.  </p>
<p>The study released by Cambridge University on May 8th of this year (finally!) shows that all humans alive on this planet came from about 10,000 adult modern humans, some whom migrated out of Africa after the Mt. Toba ice age was ending around 55-50,000 years ago.</p>
<p>Neanderthal may have been kin with Hablus or Erectus, but not modern humans.  The Bradshawfoundation.com can provide much more facts and figures than I am able to include on this post.  </p>
<p>Who we are is back to square one. </p>
<p>Ken</p>
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		<title>By: Kambiz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kambiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anne,

I&#039;m confused here, are you saying that Stringer &lt;em&gt;et al.&lt;/em&gt; didn&#039;t factor in the culture aspect? Or are you saying just as there may have been a cultural preference for more gracile &lt;em&gt;H. sapiens&lt;/em&gt;, there may have been a cultural preference for more robust Neandertals?

Kambiz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused here, are you saying that Stringer <em>et al.</em> didn&#8217;t factor in the culture aspect? Or are you saying just as there may have been a cultural preference for more gracile <em>H. sapiens</em>, there may have been a cultural preference for more robust Neandertals?</p>
<p>Kambiz</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Gilbert</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne Gilbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The trouble with this way of looking at things is, it seems to imply that Neandertals and other &quot;archaics&quot; didn&#039;t &quot;really&quot; have a culture!  But Neandertals &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; have a culture!  Their artifacts tell us so!
Anne G]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The trouble with this way of looking at things is, it seems to imply that Neandertals and other &#8220;archaics&#8221; didn&#8217;t &#8220;really&#8221; have a culture!  But Neandertals <b><i>did</i></b> have a culture!  Their artifacts tell us so!<br />
Anne G</p>
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		<title>By: Kambiz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kambiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Razib, to answer your second question -- yes I&#039;m not just implying but I believe that social selection has had a big role on why we see more gracile traits in modern human than not. I do not have any imperical evidence to support this. I&#039;m running on just my observations.

Now about my definition on genetic drift. What I did mean to say is that genetic drift is situation where sample exhibits variance away from the expectation from generation to generation. I guess I overcomplicated the definition so thanks for clarifying it for me and others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razib, to answer your second question &#8212; yes I&#8217;m not just implying but I believe that social selection has had a big role on why we see more gracile traits in modern human than not. I do not have any imperical evidence to support this. I&#8217;m running on just my observations.</p>
<p>Now about my definition on genetic drift. What I did mean to say is that genetic drift is situation where sample exhibits variance away from the expectation from generation to generation. I guess I overcomplicated the definition so thanks for clarifying it for me and others.</p>
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