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	<title>Comments on: If upright walking is so energetically favorable, why do apes still &#8220;knuckle-walk&#8221;?</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 00:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good points Lucas and dexadog my two cents in response to google search is that environment plays a factor in evolution as well. If chimps began spending alot of time walking around they would eventually evolve similar bipedal mechanisms as we did. The crux of evolution is that life is easier for those with the random mutations mentioned by Lucas that happen to be beneficial aka an ape walking around millions of years ago with a bigger big toe than the rest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Lucas and dexadog my two cents in response to google search is that environment plays a factor in evolution as well. If chimps began spending alot of time walking around they would eventually evolve similar bipedal mechanisms as we did. The crux of evolution is that life is easier for those with the random mutations mentioned by Lucas that happen to be beneficial aka an ape walking around millions of years ago with a bigger big toe than the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: dexadog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dexadog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 03:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone seems to be ignoring the part mutations play in evolution. &quot;Mistakes&quot; can prove to be beneficial as well as harmful, and without mutations, change would be nonexistent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone seems to be ignoring the part mutations play in evolution. &#8220;Mistakes&#8221; can prove to be beneficial as well as harmful, and without mutations, change would be nonexistent.</p>
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		<title>By: bo moore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bo moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so tired of hearing this old myth: &quot;you can believe in god and in evolution.&quot; Not really. These two beliefs cannot both be true. God is a supernatural IDEA; that is, part of a supernatural dimension in the human mind. The supernatural exists in defiance of reality; its mythical beings overturn physical law in supposed miracles. It is a closed system. The supernatural is the product of magical thinking. 

Evolution is part of science, an investigative system which seeks to describe and understand natural laws, ie &quot;reality.&quot; It is open ended: evolution does not have a designer or a goal. Life unfolds as part of a prime principle of reality: CHANGE. 

The human brain can &quot;hold&quot; mutually exclusive beliefs because ideas are not things, and there&#039;s a lot of junk floating around in our minds. The human brain and culture are the result of hoarding. Think of an extremely packed basement where nothing is ever thrown out. That&#039;s why human beings are so confused!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so tired of hearing this old myth: &#8220;you can believe in god and in evolution.&#8221; Not really. These two beliefs cannot both be true. God is a supernatural IDEA; that is, part of a supernatural dimension in the human mind. The supernatural exists in defiance of reality; its mythical beings overturn physical law in supposed miracles. It is a closed system. The supernatural is the product of magical thinking. </p>
<p>Evolution is part of science, an investigative system which seeks to describe and understand natural laws, ie &#8220;reality.&#8221; It is open ended: evolution does not have a designer or a goal. Life unfolds as part of a prime principle of reality: CHANGE. </p>
<p>The human brain can &#8220;hold&#8221; mutually exclusive beliefs because ideas are not things, and there&#8217;s a lot of junk floating around in our minds. The human brain and culture are the result of hoarding. Think of an extremely packed basement where nothing is ever thrown out. That&#8217;s why human beings are so confused!</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so.</p>
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		<title>By: Kambiz Kamrani</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kambiz Kamrani]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A comment like that shows how ignorant you are of evolutionary processes. Sorry, I&#039;m not gonna even deal. Crack open a book and read up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment like that shows how ignorant you are of evolutionary processes. Sorry, I&#8217;m not gonna even deal. Crack open a book and read up.</p>
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		<title>By: google search</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[google search]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not familar with this argument at all, but the points being made imo are completely arbitrary. The better question is why didn&#039;t chimps evolve to be bipedal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not familar with this argument at all, but the points being made imo are completely arbitrary. The better question is why didn&#8217;t chimps evolve to be bipedal?</p>
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		<title>By: Lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lukas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Kambiz

I love the word intelligent designer :P :)

But no, I&#039;m just saying just because evolution is something we&#039;re looking into now doesn&#039;t rule out the fact that there could very well be something about our creation that we know nothing about, SUCH AS an intelligent designer. It could be anything. I don&#039;t know anymore than you do, and vice versa. 

The comparison I was making to the round/flat world is that the socially accepted view of the world, by the top dogs of the time, was that the world was flat. There were those (mainly Galileo) who believed otherwise, and were considered absolutely absurd (and in his case prosecuted) in the eye of the public. The fact that he was found correct by the end may or may not be relevant to this situation. 

@HAM

Just to clarify, I&#039;m not a &quot;stupid&quot; creationist. I&#039;m not creationist at all. I personally think that that&#039;s taking it too far. HOWEVER, I don&#039;t see why it&#039;s wrong or stupid in any way to be creationist. Let them be, you won&#039;t tell them they&#039;re wrong and get away with it unless you&#039;ve died and come back to tell the tale with memory. Unlikely. Grow up a little, both sides take this fight way too seriously. 

Wrong or right, let people believe what they want to believe without harshing on them. My point is who knows. As much as one side may think they&#039;re right, the other side side believes the same thing just as strongly. Back off guys. It&#039;s not hurting anyone. Leave them alone. They&#039;re good people! :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kambiz</p>
<p>I love the word intelligent designer :P :)</p>
<p>But no, I&#8217;m just saying just because evolution is something we&#8217;re looking into now doesn&#8217;t rule out the fact that there could very well be something about our creation that we know nothing about, SUCH AS an intelligent designer. It could be anything. I don&#8217;t know anymore than you do, and vice versa. </p>
<p>The comparison I was making to the round/flat world is that the socially accepted view of the world, by the top dogs of the time, was that the world was flat. There were those (mainly Galileo) who believed otherwise, and were considered absolutely absurd (and in his case prosecuted) in the eye of the public. The fact that he was found correct by the end may or may not be relevant to this situation. </p>
<p>@HAM</p>
<p>Just to clarify, I&#8217;m not a &#8220;stupid&#8221; creationist. I&#8217;m not creationist at all. I personally think that that&#8217;s taking it too far. HOWEVER, I don&#8217;t see why it&#8217;s wrong or stupid in any way to be creationist. Let them be, you won&#8217;t tell them they&#8217;re wrong and get away with it unless you&#8217;ve died and come back to tell the tale with memory. Unlikely. Grow up a little, both sides take this fight way too seriously. </p>
<p>Wrong or right, let people believe what they want to believe without harshing on them. My point is who knows. As much as one side may think they&#8217;re right, the other side side believes the same thing just as strongly. Back off guys. It&#8217;s not hurting anyone. Leave them alone. They&#8217;re good people! :P</p>
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		<title>By: HAM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HAM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kambiz,
 I am glad you are the moderator for this site. You don&#039;t let people get away with ludicrous ideas/ statements and you are not afraid to keep it real. (i.e. tell creationists that they&#039;re simply wrong. and stupid too.) Love it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kambiz,<br />
 I am glad you are the moderator for this site. You don&#8217;t let people get away with ludicrous ideas/ statements and you are not afraid to keep it real. (i.e. tell creationists that they&#8217;re simply wrong. and stupid too.) Love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kambiz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kambiz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 11:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lukas, what are you trying to say? 

Are you seriously using Galileo&#039;s theory of a round world that rotates around the Sun to state that we should also keep an open mind to the idea of an Intelligent Designer?

Kambiz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lukas, what are you trying to say? </p>
<p>Are you seriously using Galileo&#8217;s theory of a round world that rotates around the Sun to state that we should also keep an open mind to the idea of an Intelligent Designer?</p>
<p>Kambiz</p>
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		<title>By: Lukas</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lukas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 03:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ Patrick,
While it is very possible that you are correct, quit being such a baby. &quot;Gods are an arcane dying concept&quot;? Not any more likely than the theory of evolution, etc. 
Remember Patrick, people considered to be the most intelligent of society not long ago were those who thought the world was flat, due to their &quot;logic&quot;. I&#039;m not saying you have to be religious, or NOT to believe in evolution, etc (I do (to some extent)) but I think it&#039;s arrogant and ignorant to keep such a closed mind to anything that we havn&#039;t proven 100% COMPLETELY correct. After all, &quot;they could see with their own eyes&quot; that the world was flat.
I&#039;m trying to be as little biast as possible. I am in fact christian, but maybe not so much someone who goes word-for-word out of the bible. As stated earlier, I&#039;ve devised my own beliefs (which havn&#039;t yet been proved wrong by any theories) in which evolution is a very likely. 

Just reminding everyone that humans actually &quot;don&#039;t know shit&quot; ;) Keep an open mind kids.

-Lukas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Patrick,<br />
While it is very possible that you are correct, quit being such a baby. &#8220;Gods are an arcane dying concept&#8221;? Not any more likely than the theory of evolution, etc.<br />
Remember Patrick, people considered to be the most intelligent of society not long ago were those who thought the world was flat, due to their &#8220;logic&#8221;. I&#8217;m not saying you have to be religious, or NOT to believe in evolution, etc (I do (to some extent)) but I think it&#8217;s arrogant and ignorant to keep such a closed mind to anything that we havn&#8217;t proven 100% COMPLETELY correct. After all, &#8220;they could see with their own eyes&#8221; that the world was flat.<br />
I&#8217;m trying to be as little biast as possible. I am in fact christian, but maybe not so much someone who goes word-for-word out of the bible. As stated earlier, I&#8217;ve devised my own beliefs (which havn&#8217;t yet been proved wrong by any theories) in which evolution is a very likely. </p>
<p>Just reminding everyone that humans actually &#8220;don&#8217;t know shit&#8221; ;) Keep an open mind kids.</p>
<p>-Lukas</p>
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