I agree with the previous commenter. The data itself is fascinating and beautiful. Why ruin it with a cheesy “tree” illustration, which adds no information — and in fact, *subtracts* information by making it harder to read and understand the relationships among the data? I highly recommend this article on Edward Tufte’s website on the topic: http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0001TV
This language tree was an excellent read. I wonder what electromagnetic communication deviation system caused the original language splits, and how it can be taken from the human mental/social circuit.
Vishnuvyas. You might find the tree in this paper useful. It’s an older paper by Gray and Atkinson, the ones who did the paper on Indian expansion Kambiz has just posted:
William Bunker wondered, “what electromagnetic communication deviation system caused the original language split?” My guess would be that, like species, as the original language spread out different regions lost contact with each other. The languages formed a cline, then broke into dialects and eventually became different languages.
What the f..k is this s..t?! Where the hell is the Macedonian language, huh?! Why nobody put my language in this group? Or in any group at ALL! Sorry but this tree is NOT true the whole
Giviet, this kind of language and tone is not welcomed here. I have edited your commented to ‘remove’ the inappropriate words. You have been banned from commenting any further on this site.
I am informing everyone that anyone else who chooses to comment in this tone will be permanently banned without warning.
I don’t know where Singhalese is. And quite frankly I’m sick of hosting these sorts of questions. You’re not the first to ask, but you will be the last.
Is this a comprehensive language tree? No it is not, you should know that before posting. It is a nice cartoon illustration that comes from Gamkrelidze and Ivanov’s, “The Early History of Indo-European Languages” which was printed in Scientific American in March 1990. If you have any questions why X language isn’t included in the tree, people should try and contact the people who made the tree.
Erin. I’m pretty sure Singhalese is a branch of Indic. The tree doesn’t group the Indic languages into subfamilies so you’ll have to follow that up yourself.
This diagram fails to address the tree as a whole in my opinion from known depository sources that have not been thoroughly examined yet, for example: None of my immediate family speaks German what so ever, and that I’ve never taken language courses in German what so ever, But that when I attempt to read German I can see the singularities… such as in words slightly misspelled or in different pronunciation, (but same meaning) Also pitch in conversation (or topic at hand ) helps me to better understand what is being conveyed, LOL yea I can pick that out , anyways I’m not here to bash the artist but I was really looking for a language tree that dates around the Sumerian times to present: (4000bc to present), However I’de Like to express that I am very opened minded about this topic so please reply with thoughts or facts.
:) <— ( :), LOL )internet language).
Everyone should know that language trees are all somewhat hypothetical. This does not make them uninteresting, though. It is rather sad how so many languages are dying around the world. By the way Kambiz, thanks for trying to keep the comments in line (tough job on the internet).
Probably this is because I have a computer science background, but this could possibly be one of the most unreadable visualization of a language tree!
vishnuvyas
February 5, 2008 at 6:46 pm
I agree with the previous commenter. The data itself is fascinating and beautiful. Why ruin it with a cheesy “tree” illustration, which adds no information — and in fact, *subtracts* information by making it harder to read and understand the relationships among the data? I highly recommend this article on Edward Tufte’s website on the topic: http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0001TV
Cheers,
Ari
Ari
February 5, 2008 at 7:38 pm
This language tree was an excellent read. I wonder what electromagnetic communication deviation system caused the original language splits, and how it can be taken from the human mental/social circuit.
william bunker
February 5, 2008 at 9:05 pm
Vishnuvyas. You might find the tree in this paper useful. It’s an older paper by Gray and Atkinson, the ones who did the paper on Indian expansion Kambiz has just posted:
TerryT
February 5, 2008 at 9:55 pm
[...] Visto en Anthropology.net. [...]
El árbol lingüístico indoeuropeo « Mare Magnum
February 6, 2008 at 4:32 am
I want to see the WHOLE TREE!
Kylie
February 6, 2008 at 5:55 am
William Bunker wondered, “what electromagnetic communication deviation system caused the original language split?” My guess would be that, like species, as the original language spread out different regions lost contact with each other. The languages formed a cline, then broke into dialects and eventually became different languages.
TerryT
February 6, 2008 at 9:25 pm
Wow, fantastic presentation combined with a wealth of information.
Nate the Great
February 7, 2008 at 7:10 am
[...] Visto en Anthropology.net. [...]
Mare Magnum | El árbol lingüístico indoeuropeo
September 6, 2008 at 4:21 am
What the f..k is this s..t?! Where the hell is the Macedonian language, huh?! Why nobody put my language in this group? Or in any group at ALL! Sorry but this tree is NOT true the whole
Giviet
October 28, 2008 at 3:26 am
Giviet, this kind of language and tone is not welcomed here. I have edited your commented to ‘remove’ the inappropriate words. You have been banned from commenting any further on this site.
I am informing everyone that anyone else who chooses to comment in this tone will be permanently banned without warning.
Kambiz
October 28, 2008 at 8:21 am
where’s singhalese?
erin
November 7, 2008 at 9:20 am
I don’t know where Singhalese is. And quite frankly I’m sick of hosting these sorts of questions. You’re not the first to ask, but you will be the last.
Is this a comprehensive language tree? No it is not, you should know that before posting. It is a nice cartoon illustration that comes from Gamkrelidze and Ivanov’s, “The Early History of Indo-European Languages” which was printed in Scientific American in March 1990. If you have any questions why X language isn’t included in the tree, people should try and contact the people who made the tree.
Kambiz
November 7, 2008 at 10:57 am
Erin. I’m pretty sure Singhalese is a branch of Indic. The tree doesn’t group the Indic languages into subfamilies so you’ll have to follow that up yourself.
terryt
November 7, 2008 at 1:20 pm
this tree is has been made by a jerk of linguistic. where is the Albanian, one of the oldest language of Europe?
endrit
May 10, 2009 at 11:10 am
Getoverit.
Kambiz
May 11, 2009 at 11:25 pm
This tree is totally wrong.I didnt see the Illyrian language, which is one of the oldest IE languages.
Ago Basha
June 20, 2009 at 2:36 pm
what bout the Albanian language???
tonin
September 28, 2009 at 1:11 pm
What about it?
Kambiz
September 28, 2009 at 9:29 pm
i mean where is it on the tree???
tonin
September 29, 2009 at 6:11 am
This diagram fails to address the tree as a whole in my opinion from known depository sources that have not been thoroughly examined yet, for example: None of my immediate family speaks German what so ever, and that I’ve never taken language courses in German what so ever, But that when I attempt to read German I can see the singularities… such as in words slightly misspelled or in different pronunciation, (but same meaning) Also pitch in conversation (or topic at hand ) helps me to better understand what is being conveyed, LOL yea I can pick that out , anyways I’m not here to bash the artist but I was really looking for a language tree that dates around the Sumerian times to present: (4000bc to present), However I’de Like to express that I am very opened minded about this topic so please reply with thoughts or facts.
:) <— ( :), LOL )internet language).
J SEID
October 13, 2009 at 3:19 pm
BTW, has anyone done any type of research on native north and south American languages???
J SEID
October 13, 2009 at 3:39 pm
where is Albanian here
Era
April 29, 2010 at 4:33 am
albanian is not proto indo language your language descends from asia
lol
September 4, 2011 at 10:26 am
Everyone should know that language trees are all somewhat hypothetical. This does not make them uninteresting, though. It is rather sad how so many languages are dying around the world. By the way Kambiz, thanks for trying to keep the comments in line (tough job on the internet).
Steven Posey
December 26, 2010 at 6:36 am
Pashto – Budapest – Estonian? Any lingual linkage?
sayang
September 15, 2011 at 6:27 am