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	<title>Comments on: My thoughts on History Channel&#8217;s &#8220;Journey to 10,000 BC&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: terryt</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/03/10/my-thoughts-on-history-channels-journey-to-10000-bc/#comment-11991</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way back in May Stuart asked, &quot;Does anyone know of a map of the exposed land during any of th Ice Ages?&quot;  Sorry to take so long to reply but any map that shows ocean depth will give you a good idea.  Although some parts of the earth have sunk somewhat and others risen you can take as a rough guide the 100-200 metres below present sea lavel as being approximately the boundary of land during the ice ages over the last few tens of thousands of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way back in May Stuart asked, &#8220;Does anyone know of a map of the exposed land during any of th Ice Ages?&#8221;  Sorry to take so long to reply but any map that shows ocean depth will give you a good idea.  Although some parts of the earth have sunk somewhat and others risen you can take as a rough guide the 100-200 metres below present sea lavel as being approximately the boundary of land during the ice ages over the last few tens of thousands of years.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveM</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/03/10/my-thoughts-on-history-channels-journey-to-10000-bc/#comment-11988</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck said on March 21, 2008 at 9:28 pm

&quot;A note of correction, the film said the Colombian Mammoth was the largest animal in North America since the dinosaurs, not the entire world.&quot;

Sorry, you are wrong. I recorded the show and watched it carefully twice. It definitely says &quot;largest animal on land&quot; and nothing about North America.

As others have pointed out, even if they meant North America (which they clearly did NOT say), they were wrong, because Mammuthus imperator was the largest mammoth in North America, not the Columbian Mammoth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck said on March 21, 2008 at 9:28 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;A note of correction, the film said the Colombian Mammoth was the largest animal in North America since the dinosaurs, not the entire world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, you are wrong. I recorded the show and watched it carefully twice. It definitely says &#8220;largest animal on land&#8221; and nothing about North America.</p>
<p>As others have pointed out, even if they meant North America (which they clearly did NOT say), they were wrong, because Mammuthus imperator was the largest mammoth in North America, not the Columbian Mammoth.</p>
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		<title>By: A &#8216;Re-Review&#8217; of Journey to 10,000 B.C. &#171; Anthropology.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>A &#8216;Re-Review&#8217; of Journey to 10,000 B.C. &#171; Anthropology.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like a review copy. I said sure, despite the fact that I viewed the original airing of the show in March and wrote up an unfavorable review of it. But I didn&#8217;t say [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/03/10/my-thoughts-on-history-channels-journey-to-10000-bc/#comment-11089</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Just saw &quot;Journey to 10,000 B.C.&quot;this week, and noticed you guys are skeptical about the European Origin Theory.
 The North Atlantic sea level was said to be so low that England was attached to France, and other land masses were exposed. Also the sedimentary record showed a large gap where the earliest settlers were wiped out or didn&#039;t leave any traces. Also, why would there be only one &quot;Original People&quot; from one direction, and only one arrival? I&#039;ve seen previous theories for people in far southern South America pre-dating Central American human presence. Does anyone know of a map of the exposed land during any of th Ice Ages&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Just saw &#8220;Journey to 10,000 B.C.&#8221;this week, and noticed you guys are skeptical about the European Origin Theory.<br />
 The North Atlantic sea level was said to be so low that England was attached to France, and other land masses were exposed. Also the sedimentary record showed a large gap where the earliest settlers were wiped out or didn&#8217;t leave any traces. Also, why would there be only one &#8220;Original People&#8221; from one direction, and only one arrival? I&#8217;ve seen previous theories for people in far southern South America pre-dating Central American human presence. Does anyone know of a map of the exposed land during any of th Ice Ages&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/03/10/my-thoughts-on-history-channels-journey-to-10000-bc/#comment-11059</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 12:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always had this same theory about the Europeans coming to the Eastern US. Many of the words in the Iroquoian  languages are pronounced the same and have the same meaning as Gaelic Celt words. The facial structures of the eastern indians are no where remotely close to the western and southwestern natives. Take the Cherokee for instance. When first encountered, they were thought to be one of the lost tribes of Israel. It&#039;s not a far stretch like A. Douglas thinks it is. What about the stacked obsidian points found along the eastern shores? Anyone who knows anything about spear points knows that obsidian makes for a very poor point as it is too brittle. It will shatter upon impact with a bone and therefore has minimal penetrating ability. These points were stacked and buried as an offering to the Earth after a successful hunt, just like in paleolithic Europe. I don&#039;t see where this is such a controversial subject. I guess scientists are like cops, once they get a suspect behind bars they are very reluctant to let them go, even when proven wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always had this same theory about the Europeans coming to the Eastern US. Many of the words in the Iroquoian  languages are pronounced the same and have the same meaning as Gaelic Celt words. The facial structures of the eastern indians are no where remotely close to the western and southwestern natives. Take the Cherokee for instance. When first encountered, they were thought to be one of the lost tribes of Israel. It&#8217;s not a far stretch like A. Douglas thinks it is. What about the stacked obsidian points found along the eastern shores? Anyone who knows anything about spear points knows that obsidian makes for a very poor point as it is too brittle. It will shatter upon impact with a bone and therefore has minimal penetrating ability. These points were stacked and buried as an offering to the Earth after a successful hunt, just like in paleolithic Europe. I don&#8217;t see where this is such a controversial subject. I guess scientists are like cops, once they get a suspect behind bars they are very reluctant to let them go, even when proven wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Kambiz Kamrani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kambiz Kamrani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 19:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J. Bremmer,

Allen West, the geophysicist who was featured on 10,000 B.C. is at GeoScience Consulting in Dewey, AZ. I believe his email is, &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:Allen7633@aol.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Allen7633@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;. I found that from the paper trail behind a recent publication that he was a coauthor of, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/104/41/16016&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Evidence for an extraterrestrial impact 12,900 years ago that contributed to the megafaunal extinctions and the Younger Dryas cooling&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;

Kambiz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J. Bremmer,</p>
<p>Allen West, the geophysicist who was featured on 10,000 B.C. is at GeoScience Consulting in Dewey, AZ. I believe his email is, <a href="mailto:Allen7633@aol.com" rel="nofollow">Allen7633@aol.com</a>. I found that from the paper trail behind a recent publication that he was a coauthor of, &#8220;<a href="http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/104/41/16016" rel="nofollow">Evidence for an extraterrestrial impact 12,900 years ago that contributed to the megafaunal extinctions and the Younger Dryas cooling</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kambiz</p>
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		<title>By: J. Bremmer</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/03/10/my-thoughts-on-history-channels-journey-to-10000-bc/#comment-10695</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Bremmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 12:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I contact the Dr. Allen West for comments on the theories presented on the show 10000 BC. I have some ideas that may help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I contact the Dr. Allen West for comments on the theories presented on the show 10000 BC. I have some ideas that may help.</p>
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		<title>By: concolor1</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/03/10/my-thoughts-on-history-channels-journey-to-10000-bc/#comment-10342</link>
		<dc:creator>concolor1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 22:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m right in the middle of watching the History Channel piece, and I was irritated how the &quot;paleo-Indians&quot; had distinctly &quot;non-Indian&quot; beards and non-Siberian features. I was correct in surmising this was a &quot;lead-in&quot; to the &quot;Solutrean Hypothesis,&quot; which is the darling of Dennis Stanford and a few others, but has scant chance of finding acceptance and consensus among mainstream science.

I tend to overreact on this stuff, but then I live in Utah where selling non-Siberian origins of Native Americans is a religion, a business, and the focus of a large university that routinely disseminates religious apologetics as part of its curriculum.

They routinely adopt the insulting tactics of Lawrence Brown above, who erroneously projects a gap in his own knowledge onto others; in point of fact, the only DNA evidence that suggested possible European presence in the New World was the presence of &quot;Haplogroup X&quot; in mitochondrial DNA found in Native Americans.

As my friend, Simon Southerton (author of &quot;Losing a Lost Tribe&quot;) points out, however, a much more closely related X-lineage was found among the Altai in Southern Siberia, and this evidence is powerful enough to constitute proof of Native American&#039;s Asian origins, particularly when combined with the archeological record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m right in the middle of watching the History Channel piece, and I was irritated how the &#8220;paleo-Indians&#8221; had distinctly &#8220;non-Indian&#8221; beards and non-Siberian features. I was correct in surmising this was a &#8220;lead-in&#8221; to the &#8220;Solutrean Hypothesis,&#8221; which is the darling of Dennis Stanford and a few others, but has scant chance of finding acceptance and consensus among mainstream science.</p>
<p>I tend to overreact on this stuff, but then I live in Utah where selling non-Siberian origins of Native Americans is a religion, a business, and the focus of a large university that routinely disseminates religious apologetics as part of its curriculum.</p>
<p>They routinely adopt the insulting tactics of Lawrence Brown above, who erroneously projects a gap in his own knowledge onto others; in point of fact, the only DNA evidence that suggested possible European presence in the New World was the presence of &#8220;Haplogroup X&#8221; in mitochondrial DNA found in Native Americans.</p>
<p>As my friend, Simon Southerton (author of &#8220;Losing a Lost Tribe&#8221;) points out, however, a much more closely related X-lineage was found among the Altai in Southern Siberia, and this evidence is powerful enough to constitute proof of Native American&#8217;s Asian origins, particularly when combined with the archeological record.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note of correction, the film said the Colombian Mammoth was the largest animal in North America since the dinosaurs, not the entire world.

This film did not have a &quot;Hollywood&quot; budget to work with.

Come visit the Wenas (near Yakima, Washington) site this summer to see history face to face.   The filming there took place last July.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A note of correction, the film said the Colombian Mammoth was the largest animal in North America since the dinosaurs, not the entire world.</p>
<p>This film did not have a &#8220;Hollywood&#8221; budget to work with.</p>
<p>Come visit the Wenas (near Yakima, Washington) site this summer to see history face to face.   The filming there took place last July.</p>
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		<title>By: Sadie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sadie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 14:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These bits of information should clear up why the show turned out so undesirable...

The producers waited until the last minute to start production. The project was started approximately 4 weeks before the show aired.

The scenes with the actors were shot in roughly 3-4 days. The script was obviously ill written. 

The shots did not reach the post-production house until 3 weeks before the show was due to air.

The budget was ridiculously frugal. There were no woolly mammoth or dog models to animate. The woolly mammoth is actually an elephant with a different texture applied to the model. They were cheap and refused to pay for more accurate models for the animators. Also, there were no story boards provided to them to follow for direction.  

The budget and time restraint made it impossible for the animators to create accurate information. Animating and compositing is very time consuming, and certainly takes longer than a few weeks. Not to mention the animators themselves are not historians!

The producer and director should have been in the studio giving them direction and accurate information and yet were mysteriously MIA during post-production. 

In short this show was really thrown together. Detail was severely lacking. It&#039;s sad to say that their focus through this project was to meet a deadline, not to be accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These bits of information should clear up why the show turned out so undesirable&#8230;</p>
<p>The producers waited until the last minute to start production. The project was started approximately 4 weeks before the show aired.</p>
<p>The scenes with the actors were shot in roughly 3-4 days. The script was obviously ill written. </p>
<p>The shots did not reach the post-production house until 3 weeks before the show was due to air.</p>
<p>The budget was ridiculously frugal. There were no woolly mammoth or dog models to animate. The woolly mammoth is actually an elephant with a different texture applied to the model. They were cheap and refused to pay for more accurate models for the animators. Also, there were no story boards provided to them to follow for direction.  </p>
<p>The budget and time restraint made it impossible for the animators to create accurate information. Animating and compositing is very time consuming, and certainly takes longer than a few weeks. Not to mention the animators themselves are not historians!</p>
<p>The producer and director should have been in the studio giving them direction and accurate information and yet were mysteriously MIA during post-production. </p>
<p>In short this show was really thrown together. Detail was severely lacking. It&#8217;s sad to say that their focus through this project was to meet a deadline, not to be accurate.</p>
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