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	<description>Beyond bones &#38; stones</description>
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		<title>By: Archaeology&#8217;s Crucial Role: Providing The &#8216;Fossil Record&#8217; For Cultural Evolution &#171; Anthropology.net</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/06/17/culture-does-in-fact-optimize/#comment-13094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Archaeology&#8217;s Crucial Role: Providing The &#8216;Fossil Record&#8217; For Cultural Evolution &#171; Anthropology.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] do need to collaborate. Hell, archaeologists even need to understand that they&#8217;re not just digging up cultural noise. Both disciplines need to agree upon a common terminology and see that cultures can be compared. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] do need to collaborate. Hell, archaeologists even need to understand that they&#8217;re not just digging up cultural noise. Both disciplines need to agree upon a common terminology and see that cultures can be compared. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cultural Evolution Round Up &#171; Neuroanthropology</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/06/17/culture-does-in-fact-optimize/#comment-12035</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cultural Evolution Round Up &#171; Neuroanthropology]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in Culture Does, In Fact, Optimize provides a good and generally positive [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Can There Be A Synthesis Between Cultural And Biological Evoluion? &#171; Anthropology.net</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/06/17/culture-does-in-fact-optimize/#comment-11888</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Can There Be A Synthesis Between Cultural And Biological Evoluion? &#171; Anthropology.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] these advances, there are some who still think that culture and everything related with culture is nothing but noise. I don&#8217;t know where [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] these advances, there are some who still think that culture and everything related with culture is nothing but noise. I don&#8217;t know where [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Ehrlich and Carl Zimmer discuss Cultural Evolution on Bloggingheads.tv &#171; Anthropology.net</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Ehrlich and Carl Zimmer discuss Cultural Evolution on Bloggingheads.tv &#171; Anthropology.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Carl Zimmer discuss Cultural Evolution on&#160;Bloggingheads.tv  Jump to Comments I have brought up Paul Ehrlich a lot lately. And this morning Razib emailed me a link to an interview of Ehrlich by [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carl Zimmer discuss Cultural Evolution on&nbsp;Bloggingheads.tv  Jump to Comments I have brought up Paul Ehrlich a lot lately. And this morning Razib emailed me a link to an interview of Ehrlich by [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More on Cultural Evolution &#171; Anthropology.net</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/06/17/culture-does-in-fact-optimize/#comment-11484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More on Cultural Evolution &#171; Anthropology.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] active and heated topic in the anthropology blogosphere, especially between Martin, afarensis, and I. Afarensis continued the discussion today, returning to this topic but on the projectile point [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] active and heated topic in the anthropology blogosphere, especially between Martin, afarensis, and I. Afarensis continued the discussion today, returning to this topic but on the projectile point [...]</p>
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		<title>By: razib</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/06/17/culture-does-in-fact-optimize/#comment-11452</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sir,

your tone was uncalled for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sir,</p>
<p>your tone was uncalled for.</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://anthropology.net/2008/06/17/culture-does-in-fact-optimize/#comment-11444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Repack Rider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 05:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Certainly the LEAST variable tool ever invented is the hand ax, which lasted an unimaginable million and half years virtually unchanged.  This has been used as an example of the limited imagination of homo erectus, but I go along with Professor William Calvin that it was not only optimized for its purpose, but that purpose was as a thrown weapon, not being used as a &quot;Swiss Army knife.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Certainly the LEAST variable tool ever invented is the hand ax, which lasted an unimaginable million and half years virtually unchanged.  This has been used as an example of the limited imagination of homo erectus, but I go along with Professor William Calvin that it was not only optimized for its purpose, but that purpose was as a thrown weapon, not being used as a &#8220;Swiss Army knife.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kambiz</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Afarensis, I just emailed you the copy of the Lyman &lt;em&gt;et al.&lt;/em&gt; paper.

Kambiz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Afarensis, I just emailed you the copy of the Lyman <em>et al.</em> paper.</p>
<p>Kambiz</p>
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		<title>By: afarensis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[afarensis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can you email me a copy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you email me a copy?</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’m a bit confused with the tone in last paragraph. Are you addressing me or are you using you to refer to any person in general?&lt;/i&gt;

In general, of course.

&lt;i&gt;On that point though, often improvements, optimizations, refinements in any cultural meme that provides better functionality are under heavy positive selection.&lt;/i&gt;

What I meant is that the benefit may not always be so obvious. 

For instance, sometimes one technology or way of doing things may be more productive in the short run but deplete resources in the mid or long run. It would still be positively selected because its short term benefits but it may not be so positive when looked at it holistically, from a historical perspective.

We are not out of the natural selection process, be it biological or cultural, but unlike most other species we don&#039;t have almost any predators and we can very much alter the enviroment before the unavoidable malthusian/selective forces are felt. 

Often one way is sufficient for survival and certain prosperity but it&#039;s not competitive enough. A more destructive way of doing things can be more efficient in the short run but less so in the long run. This is a tragedy we seem bound to fall into repeatedly, I suspect, because percieving the whole thing, being balanced and sustainable, does not give the competitive edge normally. 

In other cases, a tech my be just as good as the other. Or better for certain type of economy/ecology and not for another. What I mean is that there is not always necesarily a better way - sometimes things are just different, with pros and cons of their own. 

Consider pottery for instance: it&#039;s been argued that pots are burdensome for hunter-gatherers, while useful for farmers. It&#039;s not like they are always positive: it depends on your particular circumstances. Even agriculture as such: in arid enviroments it can be impracticable, even if some kilometers away, at an oasis or a riverine enviroment it can be very succesful. 

But overall I agree that there is fundamental difference between an bow and a hat (unless the first is a musical bow and the scond a helmet, I guess).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’m a bit confused with the tone in last paragraph. Are you addressing me or are you using you to refer to any person in general?</i></p>
<p>In general, of course.</p>
<p><i>On that point though, often improvements, optimizations, refinements in any cultural meme that provides better functionality are under heavy positive selection.</i></p>
<p>What I meant is that the benefit may not always be so obvious. </p>
<p>For instance, sometimes one technology or way of doing things may be more productive in the short run but deplete resources in the mid or long run. It would still be positively selected because its short term benefits but it may not be so positive when looked at it holistically, from a historical perspective.</p>
<p>We are not out of the natural selection process, be it biological or cultural, but unlike most other species we don&#8217;t have almost any predators and we can very much alter the enviroment before the unavoidable malthusian/selective forces are felt. </p>
<p>Often one way is sufficient for survival and certain prosperity but it&#8217;s not competitive enough. A more destructive way of doing things can be more efficient in the short run but less so in the long run. This is a tragedy we seem bound to fall into repeatedly, I suspect, because percieving the whole thing, being balanced and sustainable, does not give the competitive edge normally. </p>
<p>In other cases, a tech my be just as good as the other. Or better for certain type of economy/ecology and not for another. What I mean is that there is not always necesarily a better way &#8211; sometimes things are just different, with pros and cons of their own. </p>
<p>Consider pottery for instance: it&#8217;s been argued that pots are burdensome for hunter-gatherers, while useful for farmers. It&#8217;s not like they are always positive: it depends on your particular circumstances. Even agriculture as such: in arid enviroments it can be impracticable, even if some kilometers away, at an oasis or a riverine enviroment it can be very succesful. </p>
<p>But overall I agree that there is fundamental difference between an bow and a hat (unless the first is a musical bow and the scond a helmet, I guess).</p>
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