Comments on: The 28,000 Year Old Paglicci 23 Cro-Magnon mtDNA Ain’t Neandertal — It Is More Modern Than Anything Else

By: 28,000 Year Old Cro-Magnon mtDNA More Modern Than Anything Else « Ethnic Genome Project

Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:07:35 +0000

[...] Posted by ethnicgenome in Caucasians. Tags: cro-magnon, dna, genetics, mtdna, y-dna trackback This is very interesting. The open access journal PLoS One has published a new ancient DNA paper, “A [...]

By: terryt

terryt — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:18:42 +0000

Evidence suggests Polynesians are a mix of New Guinea/Australian Aborigine people and East Asians. Many groups in Africa are a mix of West Africans and Khoi-San type people. Indians are a mix of all sorts of neighbouring groups. Japanese are a mix of Ainu and more East Asian-looking people. Even indigenous Americans appear to be a mix of East Asians and sort of European-looking people.

By: Luis

Luis — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:53:53 +0000

…there’s a fair bit of evidence they did it in more ancient times.

What evidence?

By: terryt

terryt — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:11:34 +0000

Vaclav mentioned, “about Neanderthals and human mixing”. Ignoring the possibility that the mtDNA in question may have been corrupted by modern aDNA there was certainly no claim LM3 represented a Neanderthal. The authors claimed the line split from mtEve’s line around 250,000 years ago, whereas it’s generally accepted Neanderthal and modern human mtDNA separated half a million years ago.

Apart from that there is nothing at all surprising in the idea that as humans moved around the earth they picked up residents as they passed through. They certainly have done it during historical times and there’s a fair bit of evidence they did it in more ancient times.

By: Luis

Luis — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:22:03 +0000

Ehm, sorry, Vaclav – writing faster than I read (ahem).

Adcock’s research has been strongly questioned, specially because his results were not replicated independently. Due to the extreme consequences of aboriginal burial laws, it’s likely that those remains will never be available for aDNA research again anyhow.

See: http://www-personal.une.edu.au/~pbrown3/LM3.html

By: Luis

Luis — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:18:18 +0000

Does anyone have any idea?

So far all evidence seems negative. But some minor Neanderthal admixture cannot be ruled out (possibly never).

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Anyhow, as I see it the most important relevance of this finding is that it finally confirms with 100% certainty that modern Europeans are (at least maternally) descendants of Paleolithic ones and that the age of haplogroup H (to which the CRS belongs) is in the oldest ranges (or even older) than all age estimates so far.

By: Vaclav

Vaclav — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:09:40 +0000

Btw: What sais this artikle
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11209053
about Neanderals and human mixing? Does anyone have any idea?

By: Kambiz Kamrani

Kambiz Kamrani — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:58:37 +0000

Yes Terry, it shoulda been 4,000 years old. I changed the typo, thanks for catching it.

Kambiz

By: Vaclav

Vaclav — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:46:16 +0000

Those Greenland hair should be 4 000 years old . It happens.

By: terryt

terryt — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:32:48 +0000

I’m afraid you have a mispront. 40,000 year old hair from Greenland?