Comments on: Consumption Of Psychoactive Drugs By Tiwanakuan Mummies http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/ Beyond bones & stones Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:03:54 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: The horror! It’s the Satur…Sunday Roundup #7 « Confessions of a Dirt Warrior v3.0 http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12794 The horror! It’s the Satur…Sunday Roundup #7 « Confessions of a Dirt Warrior v3.0 Sun, 19 Oct 2008 08:48:30 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12794 [...] (I DO have my head up my academic ass, so I guess that’s no so much a stereotype for me), drugs n’ mummies, a really well-done post about the financial meltdown and some promising cinema. [...] [...] (I DO have my head up my academic ass, so I guess that’s no so much a stereotype for me), drugs n’ mummies, a really well-done post about the financial meltdown and some promising cinema. [...]

]]> By: j http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12780 j Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:32:47 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12780 I have visited the impressive ruins on Lake Titikaka, Bolivia. The place was called Tiahuanaco, a word that for me sounds Quechua (Huanaco = a native sheeplike domestic animal). No Tiahuanaco people is living in the area or ever had living there. In fact, according to Wiki, the name of the people that built the city is unknown. Anyway, I accept your correction. What is clear is that the use of drugs in the Altiplano has deep roots, and when President Evo Morales defends it as a native tradition, he is saying the truth. I have visited the impressive ruins on Lake Titikaka, Bolivia. The place was called Tiahuanaco, a word that for me sounds Quechua (Huanaco = a native sheeplike domestic animal). No Tiahuanaco people is living in the area or ever had living there. In fact, according to Wiki, the name of the people that built the city is unknown. Anyway, I accept your correction. What is clear is that the use of drugs in the Altiplano has deep roots, and when President Evo Morales defends it as a native tradition, he is saying the truth.

]]> By: Kambiz Kamrani http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12778 Kambiz Kamrani Sat, 18 Oct 2008 07:12:14 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12778 No need to be snarky J, If you wanna be constructive and helpful, I'm fine with that. Actually I welcome that. If you wanna be constructive but a jackass about it, I'm not okay with that... And I won't hesitate to ban you. Consider yourself warned. Kambiz P.S. An expert on Tiwanaku, Alan Kolata, refers to the Twiwanakua as a culture, in his text, "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Tiwanaku-Portrait-Civilization-Peoples-America/dp/1557861838/kkamrani-20" rel="nofollow">The Tiwanaku: Portrait of an Andean Civilization (Peoples of America)</a>." No need to be snarky J,

If you wanna be constructive and helpful, I’m fine with that. Actually I welcome that. If you wanna be constructive but a jackass about it, I’m not okay with that… And I won’t hesitate to ban you. Consider yourself warned.

Kambiz

P.S. An expert on Tiwanaku, Alan Kolata, refers to the Twiwanakua as a culture, in his text, “The Tiwanaku: Portrait of an Andean Civilization (Peoples of America).”

]]> By: j http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12777 j Sat, 18 Oct 2008 06:59:56 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12777 Please dont. Tiwanakua is a place and not a people, as far as I know. And if you change the title, my comment would be out of place. :-) Please dont. Tiwanakua is a place and not a people, as far as I know. And if you change the title, my comment would be out of place. :-)

]]> By: Kambiz Kamrani http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12772 Kambiz Kamrani Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:47:25 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12772 Yeah, I know it does, J. What would you suggest I change it to, in order for it to be more clear? How about, "Consumption of Psychoactive Drugs By The Tiwanakua"? Yeah, I know it does, J. What would you suggest I change it to, in order for it to be more clear? How about, “Consumption of Psychoactive Drugs By The Tiwanakua”?

]]> By: j http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12771 j Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:44:02 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12771 The title suggests that the mummies used drugs. Living Bolivians do it all the time, but dead ones, only rarely. The title suggests that the mummies used drugs. Living Bolivians do it all the time, but dead ones, only rarely.

]]> By: Tiny Planet » Links o’ the day, 16/10/08 http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12758 Tiny Planet » Links o’ the day, 16/10/08 Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:14:34 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12758 [...] Consumption of psychoactive drugs by Tiwanakuan mummies. (Anthropology.net) [...] [...] Consumption of psychoactive drugs by Tiwanakuan mummies. (Anthropology.net) [...]

]]> By: Kambiz Kamrani http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12744 Kambiz Kamrani Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:51:01 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12744 It is a no wonder moment for sure, from relatively modern ethnographic records we can and have infered that many prehistoric cultures were the origins of drug consumption traditions. I think this paper is cool because it uses a method familiar to many chemists to prove this tradition was active in ancient Andean studies -- I'm all about the multidisciplinary approach to answering anthropological questions. I agree, the ayahuasca (yeah that's what I meant by the <em>Banisteriopsis</em>) came from far off lands. I coulda swore I read and reviewed another similar paper that described Andean-Amazonian trade networks prior to the Inca empire, but I can't seem to conjure up a link or any search query. Thanks for the comment, Kambiz It is a no wonder moment for sure, from relatively modern ethnographic records we can and have infered that many prehistoric cultures were the origins of drug consumption traditions. I think this paper is cool because it uses a method familiar to many chemists to prove this tradition was active in ancient Andean studies — I’m all about the multidisciplinary approach to answering anthropological questions.

I agree, the ayahuasca (yeah that’s what I meant by the Banisteriopsis) came from far off lands. I coulda swore I read and reviewed another similar paper that described Andean-Amazonian trade networks prior to the Inca empire, but I can’t seem to conjure up a link or any search query.

Thanks for the comment,

Kambiz

]]> By: Luis http://anthropology.net/2008/10/15/consumption-of-psychoactive-drugs-by-tiwanakuan-mummies/#comment-12743 Luis Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0000 http://anthropologynet.wordpress.com/?p=1623#comment-12743 No wonder, really. While it is somewhat of a taboo subject, it's clear that all societies have their drugs (ours are specially alcohol and caffeine, while German Neolithics are known to have used opium extensively - a tradition that persiste in Europe until Christianization). I am not surprised at all about drug consumption in ancient Andean societies. Not really. More interesting though is that this was not just coca but also ayahuasca (that's the vine you mean, right?), which needed to be imported from the Amazon jungle. No wonder, really. While it is somewhat of a taboo subject, it’s clear that all societies have their drugs (ours are specially alcohol and caffeine, while German Neolithics are known to have used opium extensively – a tradition that persiste in Europe until Christianization). I am not surprised at all about drug consumption in ancient Andean societies. Not really.

More interesting though is that this was not just coca but also ayahuasca (that’s the vine you mean, right?), which needed to be imported from the Amazon jungle.

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