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	<title>Comments on: The Mitochondrial Lineage Of Ötzi Is Not Like Other Europeans</title>
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		<title>By: The Full mtDNA Genome of &#214;tzi is Sequenced (Twice?) &#187; The Genetic Genealogist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Full mtDNA Genome of &#214;tzi is Sequenced (Twice?) &#187; The Genetic Genealogist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Kambiz points out in the comments to his post on this new paper, the media isn&#8217;t quite as careful as the authors of the paper.&#160; See [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Blaine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kambiz - have you seen this (&quot;DNA shows Otzi the Iceman has kin&quot; at http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24579319-30417,00.html)?  Looks like someone else sequenced the mtDNA genome and even found a close relative!  It will be interesting to compare the genomes obtained by the two facilities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kambiz &#8211; have you seen this (&#8220;DNA shows Otzi the Iceman has kin&#8221; at <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24579319-30417,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24579319-30417,00.html</a>)?  Looks like someone else sequenced the mtDNA genome and even found a close relative!  It will be interesting to compare the genomes obtained by the two facilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Kambiz</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Blaine. I&#039;m a bit concerned that sources like the National Geographic ran this title, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/10/081030-iceman-DNA.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Iceman May Have No Living Relatives&lt;/a&gt;.&quot; 

Again, based upon the 115 individual sample size, he does have not have any living mitochondrial relatives. But, we need more to definitively say that. Also, we&#039;re talking about a maternally inherited marker... if he wasn&#039;t infertile, he could have living relatives that can&#039;t be identified by mitochondrial comparisons. The National Geographic should be more cautious.

I wrote about Ötzi&#039;s affinity to haplogroup K &lt;a href=&quot;http://anthropology.net/2006/02/04/oetzis-also-known-as-iceman-infertility/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in 2006&lt;/a&gt;. Back then I quoted that K, &quot;is a comparatively rare haplogroup amongst Europeans, but it has higher frequencies in populations in Ladin in the south of the Alps, and also the Oetzal area to the north.&quot; We need more samples from that area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Blaine. I&#8217;m a bit concerned that sources like the National Geographic ran this title, &#8220;<a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/10/081030-iceman-DNA.html" rel="nofollow">Iceman May Have No Living Relatives</a>.&#8221; </p>
<p>Again, based upon the 115 individual sample size, he does have not have any living mitochondrial relatives. But, we need more to definitively say that. Also, we&#8217;re talking about a maternally inherited marker&#8230; if he wasn&#8217;t infertile, he could have living relatives that can&#8217;t be identified by mitochondrial comparisons. The National Geographic should be more cautious.</p>
<p>I wrote about Ötzi&#8217;s affinity to haplogroup K <a href="http://anthropology.net/2006/02/04/oetzis-also-known-as-iceman-infertility/" rel="nofollow">in 2006</a>. Back then I quoted that K, &#8220;is a comparatively rare haplogroup amongst Europeans, but it has higher frequencies in populations in Ladin in the south of the Alps, and also the Oetzal area to the north.&#8221; We need more samples from that area.</p>
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		<title>By: moneduloides</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moneduloides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is very interesting stuff; thanks for bringing it to our attention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting stuff; thanks for bringing it to our attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blaine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re right on with your last statement.  Just look at how many of the 115 mtDNA sequences were from North America.  We genetic genealogists are continuously lamenting the fact that continental Europe just isn&#039;t very interested in genetic genealogy.  There still a dearth of mtDNA testing from continental Europe, and more testing will undoubtedly reveal pockets of unique subclades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right on with your last statement.  Just look at how many of the 115 mtDNA sequences were from North America.  We genetic genealogists are continuously lamenting the fact that continental Europe just isn&#8217;t very interested in genetic genealogy.  There still a dearth of mtDNA testing from continental Europe, and more testing will undoubtedly reveal pockets of unique subclades.</p>
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